Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Where Do the 5th Edition Haters Come From - Deep Thoughts
Old School here and tonight I want to share some thoughts on where some of the nasty hatred comes from that you can find out there when you bring up certain armies, 5th Edition or 40k in general. Personally, I think 5th provides a very solid game and I truly hope GW uses 6th to build off of what 5th has created for them rather than tear the system down just to rebuild it. For some players though, 5th has cramped their style and I can kind of see where they are coming from ...
1) The codex release schedule: Look I know GW has always worked this way and the root of the problem isn't so much the usual "rawr, the books move too slow, old books need updates" - no, the problem is actually the selections they have made for books they have released. Let's see; Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Space Wolves, Tyranids, Blood Angles, Dark Eldar, Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle. Take a look folks, two non-imperial books. That isn't news to anyone, but the issue is that there are players who have and always will be xenos players and to release this many books and ONLY put out two xenos books ... well that can cause some people to become a little bitter. Add to that the fact that the 5th edition books are mostly balanced against each other, while 4th ed books are showing their age and you can see why the haters have been grabbing their pitch forks.
My two cents here: I can understand why some folks are upset, but at the end of the day, I am rather hopeful that they are building a good thing here (fingers crossed ... hell, everything crossed). The 5th edition books point toward the direction I want ALL the codices to go. I just think they should mix it up a bit instead of stuffing an edition with Imperials (like the photo above).
2) Since we mentioned 5th edition books; while most books written during 5th come with a cornucopia of options that allow players to craft multiple army styles while still being able to lay down the hurt on the table, a couple got a little left behind by bad writing. By bad writing, I really mean Cruddance. It is obvious after playing Nids for nearly two years that there are flaws in the new book. While there are some great new units and synergy mechanics, there are obvious points-cost imbalances and FOC issues. These issues force players who don't want to lose every game to their friend's new funsy list, down a dark pigeon hole with a list that isn't as cool or imaginative as they would like.
Now tyranids are an expensive army, but so are Sisters of Battle, who got hosed on the model side of the house (17.50 for three bolter chicks, really?), but also now on the rules side of the house by being forced into a strange position with a bland FOC selection and bland rules.
My two cents: I am not looking for the new super sauce, powered up, smash face army. All that I ask is that if I spend hundreds of dollars on models and hundreds of hours painting them - GW as a responsible company, should give me a set of rules that allows flexible army building with the ability to compete with other books in the same game, so at the end of the day, we can run what we want, have fun (because we are at least relatively equal) without having to run "make it work" army lists with stuff we don't really want to take.
Now while this post seems rather rantish (hey, I am allowed to do it once a year or so!), I really just wanted to address a couple of issues that I think cause some people to lose their minds (at least on the Web and sometimes in person) and others (like me) to just be annoyed. In any case, sometimes it's better to just get some thoughts out there and off your chest, so there it is, my thoughts on where the some of the naysayers stand and how they are even a little justified.
At the end of the day, though, I love to play 40k and hang out with my friends doing so. I love meeting new people through the hobby and the game, the painting, the blog are all just a part of that social aspect, so I don't take this stuff personally. Also, alot of haters just wish their armies would hurry up and get updated, lol!
Comments are always welcome, but let's not turn this into a crying festival. Intelligent feedback is always welcome.