'Ard Boyz musings

Its a week away.  Ard boyz semifinals.  I've been tossing and turning with my list and the minor adjustments and I think I've settled and wanted to probe our readers for some input.



My list focuses on the missions.  The first being VP spreads my points out well with my highest point single target is a leman russ, not an easy nut to crack.  After that, my opponent will only be able to net 100-130 from single targets.  IG doesn't typically have a big death star type unit so its not a huge surprise to my opponent.

For mission 2 stuffing scoring units on the objective is my whole goal.  Having 10 scoring units in chimeras will really insulate me.  Topped with the number of flamers on chimeras and in the units I should be able to sweep any foot horde doing the same.

For mission 3, you really can't predict what you're goal is, but I'd prefer terrain features, VP and KP in that order.  VP is the same as mission one and terrain is the same as Mission 2.  KP is the only weakness of the list but as a long time guard player I'm used to it and can deal.  Being the final mission it really can
screw people because they can't make up for a bad roll on the mission type.

So here is the list.

CCS melta x4 chimera HF

Vets melta x3 demo chimera HF
Vets melta x3 chimera HF
Vets melta x3 chimera HF
Vets melta x3 chimera HF
Vets melta x3 chimera HF

Platoon
PCS flamer x3 chimera HF
IS flamer x1 chimera HF
IS flamer x1 chimera HF
IS flamer x1 chimera HF
IS flamer x1 chimera HF

Vendetta
Vendetta
Vendetta

Leman Russ Executioner Plasma cannon sponsons
Leman Russ Executioner Plasma cannon sponsons
Manticore

I put a lot of meta into this list, expecting power armor; space wolves, blood angels, grey knights.... But orks are squeaking in there and I'd really like a touch of horde sweep.  When you have eyes on your target, I've found the executioner inflicting as many wounds more consistently than the manitcore.  sure you can hit with 3 st 10 pie plates, but more often you scatter (only 33% chance to hit without LoS) and then you  flip off that.  And when you're using it to snipe tanks (which its a baller at doing) its not that reliable.  But for this list, it gives me a long reach for either another manticore or for some other pesky tank or unit like long fangs or lootas.  I'm also fearful that nob bikers might be making a slight come back as the internet buzz has increased about them and 2011 'ard boyz.

So my sleepless nights have been caused by a few things:

#1 no more stubbers.  In order to maximize my scoring units and vehicles I had to dump the stubbers.  Its 110 points to put the stubbers on and are really great for a torrent of low power fire.  Moving and shooting 6 up to 36" shoots is pretty silly.

#2 Hydraflaks or Manticore. Hydraflaks are going to be great vs DE, but they'd be a squadron and easily killed I feel.  I hate squadrons, destroyed on an immobilized is a ridiculous trade off.

#3 Executioner x3 or Manitcore.  This is my big one.  I'd lose a scoring unit, but get a third executioner.  They're more resilient than the manitcore but I'd lose that long range.






#4 Pysker Battle squad.  I'm not using one just because I feel like there is a ton of proteciton out there.  Hoods are a pain because PBS is Ld9 and hoods are on Ld 10 things so they're pretty good at shutting the PBS down.  After that Rune priests are every where, Grey knights have the Aegis so I'm testing on Ld 8.  The only real death star unit I fear is typically packed with a chaplain or fearless so it wouldn't matter or thunder wolves which I can deal with with shooting.


I feel pretty set in my list but I want to reach out for some input. The units I have are ones I'm used to playing with and very comfortable with and I've pretty much talked myself out of changing my list but still wanted a second pair of eyes to look at the list.