Friday, November 8, 2013

Guest Post: Play it right: Grenades in 6th Edition

Play it right: Grenades in 6th edition.


TJ here with a guest post from a blog we really like called 40k War Zone, a member of the 40k blogrolls, an excellent source of news, rumors, tactics, discussion and entertaining rules posts like the one below that made both Chris Vinton and us think of the opening days of 6th! Enjoy this post by CrAzY 424 and when you are done, check out their blog!

I wanted to make a quick post about some common misconceptions about how Grenades work within 6th edition 40k. It came to my attention that a number of gamers have misinterpreted the rules and have, unfortunately, been playing some pretty crazy games. Most of this stuff will be pretty hilarious for the majority of 40k players. Here it is:


1. Grenades in the Assault phase.

The rules state that if you choose to use a Grenade in the assault phase, you substitute all of your attacks for one single attempt. So no, you cannot have 2-3 Krak grenade attacks per model against a Mounstrous Creature or Vehicle. I have heard all sorts of arguments saying that it is set out as a "traditional weapons profile" or "It is not made clear as to which grenade they are referring to." No. Just.....No. I can't really see how it could be made more obvious to anyone as "can only ever make one attack, regardless of the number of attacks in its profile." Just............................No.

Furthermore, it is important to remember that if you are in combat with a non Vehicle or MC model, you may not opt to use a grenade attack.

2. Grenades in the Shooting phase.

Who is really surprised here? If they want to try to get more attacks from grenades in the assault phase, they are going to try it in shooting. Again, the rulebook quite clearly states that only ONE model may substitute firing it's own weapon in favour of throwing a grenade. You CANNOT throw ten plasma grenades for example, or worse, try and spam Krak Str6 shooting attacks.

3. Defensive Grenades.

Are great. However, some players have been playing them as granting the Stealth USR at all times. This is not the case. It quite clearly states that you must be within the 8" killzone to gain the bonus. Furthermore, players who have access to defensive grenades should remember that enemy units DO NOT gain an additional attack for charging! Bam! You would be surprised at the number of times my Fire Warriors have tanked a tonne of close shooting attacks, over-watched half the enemy squad to death and then held in combat when the enemy doesn't have enough attacks to wipe them.

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Sometimes I wonder how people have missed some of the core concepts within the rules. It occurred to me that the players most often using these tactics are usually either very new to the game (understandable) or are just dodgy mofos who put on a confident tone of voice and "explain" to you how the "rules work." 3Colours has taken to replying to such encounters with "well I guess we can blame the rulebook for being wrong."

I have a few more rules queries that need to be publicised, but that can wait for another day.

Who has encountered grenade problems before? I hope they didn't blow up too intensely...........................................................................................


That blog again is 40k War Zone. Check it out!

4 comments:

  1. This came up recently with a dreadnought in combat. We were so used to a single grenade "throw" we forgot each combatant could use a single krak grenade! Great reminder for defensive grenades, cheers!

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  2. "Sometimes I wonder how people have missed some of the core concepts within the rules. It occurred to me that the players most often using these tactics are usually either very new to the game (understandable) or are just dodgy mofos who put on a confident tone of voice and "explain" to you how the "rules work." 3Colours has taken to replying to such encounters with "well I guess we can blame the rulebook for being wrong."

    Wow, what a condescending way to end an otherwise good article. Is this the tone and attitude of 40K War Zone?

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    1. Hi Dez, thanks for reading Crazy's entry from our blog. Sorry you thought the article had a condescending finale - I'm sure that wasn't the intention. We tend to write with a tongue-in-cheek approach and we're all passionate about different aspects of the hobby - Crazy in particular is a stickler for the rules. Please check out the rest of the blog to hopefully get a better idea of what we're about.

      A big thanks to TJ for re-posting this here. I'm really looking forward to seeing your entry for this month's painting competition - theme to be announced soon.

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