tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post4264949574814884723..comments2024-03-26T02:32:50.095-04:00Comments on Dark Future Games: Tau Firebase Support Cadre and 40k's First True FormationTJ Atwellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01304177224607153451noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-78535235469511390892013-12-05T19:46:30.193-05:002013-12-05T19:46:30.193-05:00I think if you are already taking the models then ...I think if you are already taking the models then yeah it provides a nice boost. I also think it should have a more limited allies chart, just for fluff reasonsBig Poppa Freshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07315696236166897973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-1858374761383939342013-12-03T07:20:15.887-05:002013-12-03T07:20:15.887-05:00Indeed, the Eldar one is pretty niche compared to ...Indeed, the Eldar one is pretty niche compared to the others. GW has a major thing for Iyanden this edition.Spellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-70560297046824726612013-12-03T04:10:40.046-05:002013-12-03T04:10:40.046-05:00I like anything that gives players more options. I...I like anything that gives players more options. I think how competitive these are will depend mainly on the points cost (surprise).<br /><br />As far as tournaments go, I hope that they allow any new supplements as standard and give us all a chance to find out how effective they really are before thinking about any (hopefully unnecessary) comp. Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13483874659853638814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-52915211260800897372013-12-03T02:53:23.870-05:002013-12-03T02:53:23.870-05:00The Eldar bundle will have to be overwhelmingly go...The Eldar bundle will have to be overwhelmingly good for consideration. It will cost so many points that I doubt anyone except for Iyanden players to take it. The Tau formation make it worthwhile simply because it is great for it's points. That's just my skepticism. CrAzY424https://www.blogger.com/profile/04046206772087768569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-22402438809705987652013-12-03T00:23:04.095-05:002013-12-03T00:23:04.095-05:00I wonder if a Spiritseer will be able to make the ...I wonder if a Spiritseer will be able to make the Ghost army datasheet's Wraithguard Troops or not. Overall, it depends on the rules they get. Probably Battle Focus for the lot of them. Which I wouldn't complain about too much.Spellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-45905061145320158522013-12-03T00:16:35.718-05:002013-12-03T00:16:35.718-05:00TJ, I am sure the back story on a list like that w...TJ, I am sure the back story on a list like that would forge a throbbing narrative. Besides, I would love to see some hyper-daemonic battle suits.<br /><br />Steinerp, oh yes, I hadn't forgotten, but they aren't out yet so I left the Eldar out of that one. Now I'm wondering, after this is all done, what the maximum number of codexes you could get into an 1850 list would be.Spellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-37438579574532962202013-12-02T22:56:20.422-05:002013-12-02T22:56:20.422-05:00Is the formation a Farsight formation? If not I&#...Is the formation a Farsight formation? If not I'm sure how your comment is relevant. Are you saying that the detachment is battle brothers for the farsight enclave, in that case yes it is.steinerphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062735683743692873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-58324581965643295072013-12-02T22:37:39.184-05:002013-12-02T22:37:39.184-05:00Tau Empire codex can ally with Farsight Enclave su...Tau Empire codex can ally with Farsight Enclave supplement, they are BB.<br /><br />Your welcome.Slayer le boucherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04320315747215626458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-19028987705596771412013-12-02T22:36:19.542-05:002013-12-02T22:36:19.542-05:00Can finnaly run my World Eaters + Khorne Deamons +...Can finnaly run my World Eaters + Khorne Deamons + Dark Mech Cyborgs army...<br /><br />First though of using Farsight with 5 Crisis suits, a Riptide and a 6 man Firewarrios of course, was allready in the 700points, so here having 6 Broadsides and 1 Riptide, and still be able to take Deamons for my WE, i'd says its nice.<br /><br />Now only need a Deamon or Deamon engine type of Formation, with Maulerfiends with +1 WS and I and if with tendrils count has having nades, and it will be cool.Slayer le boucherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04320315747215626458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-41968329353959004452013-12-02T21:58:45.492-05:002013-12-02T21:58:45.492-05:00Spellduck- Don't forget to add Eldar to your l...Spellduck- Don't forget to add Eldar to your list, I'm sure they will be getting a datasheet as well for their bundle.steinerphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062735683743692873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-59333708950114672152013-12-02T21:55:50.851-05:002013-12-02T21:55:50.851-05:00I'm curious as to what the eldar datasheet wil...I'm curious as to what the eldar datasheet will be. Wraithknight, 2 wraithlords and 15 wraithknights. Could be fun. Sure it is a 1000 points but could put wraithlords back on the table.<br /><br />My real question is how do Tau players interact with the Fire Support. Based on your above quote, the detachment follows the rules from the allies matrix, except, Tau can't ally with Tau in the matrix. They aren't battle brothers, they aren't anything according to the rulebook. Obviously they are intended to be battle brothers but from what you said that isn't clear. You could actually use this to argue that an army with a Tau detachment can't take the formation potentially.steinerphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062735683743692873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-67377933430143823112013-12-02T19:56:05.930-05:002013-12-02T19:56:05.930-05:00George that's not really disturbing considerin...George that's not really disturbing considering how wonky it would function, but think of how stupid it is that as a daemon player, I can grab all this anti tank shooting for no penalty, no tax, add daemon troops and screamerstar. That's fucked up. We are forging a serious narrative there huh?TJ Atwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01304177224607153451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-74534967283280461342013-12-02T18:46:16.882-05:002013-12-02T18:46:16.882-05:00Tank Hunters on all these guys will drop some Serp...Tank Hunters on all these guys will drop some Serpents, that's for sure. I'm very curious to see what the rest of these releases bring to the table. <br />While alone, this release isn't crazy unsettling, but it puts some interesting things into the future as far as some really scrambled lists. I mean, think about Space Marines, allied with Guard, with an Inquisitorial detachment and a Cadre detachment. I'm not putting that combo out there for any purpose other than to illustrate how many different codexes you could get into one list. It's wild. Interesting times ahead!Spellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-34172874491656429622013-12-02T14:24:05.464-05:002013-12-02T14:24:05.464-05:00Poor Serpent players, hahaha. My Daemon Princes wi...Poor Serpent players, hahaha. My Daemon Princes will cry sweet tears for them, Crazy. In all seriousness, yeah, Tau players get free tank hunters which is pretty clutch. Against Marines, the comnination means dead rhino chassis, if anybody still runs them (re-roll to hit and wound), but Land Raiders will likley continue to roll about as they always have.TJ Atwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01304177224607153451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-243297966132497622013-12-02T14:21:10.206-05:002013-12-02T14:21:10.206-05:00Some of the tau players here already run double br...Some of the tau players here already run double broadside units in their tournament lists, they basically just gain free tank hunters on such units. It's not game breaking, but is a nuisance for us serpent players lol.CrAzY424https://www.blogger.com/profile/04046206772087768569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-80500025171256259942013-12-02T13:57:31.344-05:002013-12-02T13:57:31.344-05:00This formation is what people who want to take Tau...This formation is what people who want to take Tau heavy hitters without having to take an HQ and troops will take. So let's say you want to use this with SM, I would load up on cheap troops like scouts in a Landpeeder Storm, maybe throw in a tac squad and a cheap HQ, then I would pop this formation in then flesh out the list with SM all stars like thunderfires and sternguard. <br /><br />Even at 700+ for this formation you can definitely get more than a few scoring boots on the ground. The main problem would be having most of your eggs in this one basket, but it's a pretty sweet basket nonetheless.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659277174388428318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-29913029585071356452013-12-02T12:30:28.547-05:002013-12-02T12:30:28.547-05:00I couldn't have said it better myself.I couldn't have said it better myself. TJ Atwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01304177224607153451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-12741829192865862932013-12-02T12:23:35.761-05:002013-12-02T12:23:35.761-05:00Your troops will be terrible then.
Think about wh...Your troops will be terrible then.<br /><br />Think about what you see - you have to take what - almost 500 points of a tax to take the one extra riptide? Why take this then.<br /><br />If we get a cheap formation then we can talk - but this is hitting what - 700+ points? What do you have left as you still have to take an HQ and troops. Sure you will add in a commander to attach to this - but then you better have target locks on everyone to hope this unit can kill multiple things. If not it is just killing the crap out of one thing and then moving on.<br /><br />Plus you leave a crap ton of points in one unit - jaws will be great to remove these guys off the table - let alone lots of other things. Plus this whole unit is T4 for shooting - dakka dakka all over the place will remove it.<br /><br />It isn't that good - trust me - a riptide on its own will do you just fine with 3 Broadside sitting at the side. Thomas aka Goatboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07473515228765680402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4101762574768178801.post-76067820703877093332013-12-02T11:22:39.102-05:002013-12-02T11:22:39.102-05:00So you mean even more Riptides can be taken?? Grea...So you mean even more Riptides can be taken?? Great....Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05755812958405151862noreply@blogger.com